69 Responses to “Poll – Which WordPress Theme Framework To Use?”
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I say use the Hybrid theme, but I am a little biased.
I love the Thematic and WP Framework themes too. Both Ian and Ptah are solid developers that know what they’re doing. Sandbox is great but doesn’t offer the same level of flexibility with hooks and filters. Carrington is cool, but to me, it just seems like a little much at times.
Hi Justin,
Thanks for taking the time to stop by. Of course you use Hybrid!
I’ve read your post saying you created it for your own needs. I’ll admit I’m tempted to do the same thing and create a theme framework set up the way I’d do it. I have to tell myself it’s a waste of time.
Thanks also for your perspective on the different frameworks. I guess you’ve confirmed what I was thinking (Carrington a little too much, Sandbox a little limited). Maybe that narrows it down to three.
I always like to make sites with my own code base. I’ve worked with WordPress quite a few times and the whole thing is an absolute mess. I don’t see how anyone can work with it. There are so many basic web development problems it has such as incorrect data sanitation, insecure templates, terrible security history and they still have not implemented multi-byte escaping on queries, which means anyone using BIG5 or GBK can have their Db demolished.
In my short time doing this I have only used Sandbox. From what I have heard it is better for the inexperienced and newbies. If I am wrong please let me know, as I would love to try other frameworks in the future.
I would definitely go with Carrington Theme, especially for the way the sidebars look.
i can’t vote this time because I wasn’t able to try them yet and I actually don’t know that such exists. I usually use pre-built themes and never used framework but I will try these different framework for my new domain to register using WP. What do you recommend that is very easy for me to start with?
i prefer the hybrid one, looks simple but still kinda cool
I like hybrid a good bit out of all the choices. I got a little frustrated in my attempts to hack it apart, since I don’t have a really good knowledge of child themes and how they work, but I like how it looks even straight out of the box.
I too have been wanting to design my own wordpress theme. But of course with work taking up so much time and kids too forget about going from scratch.
I am new to the options of using framework so I would love to ride on your coattails and see how your experience goes.
A theme framework? Sorry but you try to place a solar house for a single plant lol! When I allready have the XHTML file from the PSD it takes me ~1-2h for making the WordPress Theme… from scratch! It’s not that heavy
so why do you need a framework for that?
I really like the Hybrid Theme Frame. Justin did a great job.
While it’s true that many of us are able to make our own custom themes in a matter of only a few hours, that is not the case for everyone. The sole popularity of WP themes in general is proof of that. Most people don’t know how to code so these themes and frameworks are very useful. I personally like to take a theme that I think is great, like Hybrid, and customize it to be the way I want. This saves me a lot of time.
Hi
i also like the Hybrid theme,
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I’m with Andrew – I like the way the sidebars work in Carrington.
I use WordPress.com so I’m stuck with a small number of themes – I don’t seem to be able to choose any of these.
I’ll have to move to a self hosted blog.
I like Ian Stewart’s Thematic WordPress theme.
One more vote for Hybrid. But then again i am biased with Justin’s themes. I like making new blog designs based on Hybrid framework.
Regards
TJ
There are so many basic web development problems it has such as incorrect data sanitation, insecure templates, terrible security history and they still have not implemented multi-byte escaping on queries, which means anyone using BIG5 or GBK can have their Db demolished.
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I’m stuck in the WordPress.com box too. I think it’s time to venture out and have some real fun.
I really like the colours combined in Ian Stewart’s Thematic. WP Framework on the other side seems good for the serious stuff, about politics for example.
I think Hybrid is the best framework so far and I am also planning to grab many themes from that. I know it is stupidity to spend money on themes but i have seen some best designs on this planet which are paid but I am not familiar with their framework.
In my opinion Hybrid is the best one… it’s fast and productive if you know what you do
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My vote would go for thesis. Easily customizable, comes with decent SEO built-in
I just normally use a template of my own creation. Easier that way when editing the code, cuz its mine
I think they are all very useful WordPress framworks, however I think I liked the sandbox best.
I love the Hibrid framework. Say what you will about the design but it’s got a great functionality and is pretty simple to use.
Thematic for me – I love the clean, understated design elements.
WPFramework is the best one for sure. Anyone who says otherwise should check it out.
comparing is good but it takes time. i think hybrid is well used now. (www.kika.ca)
I love free themes that have some resemblance of SEO.
I will be trying out Hybrid and Thematic for my next project…thanks!
I have a blog in progress glad I stumbled on this article. Thank you this would be very useful. I chose Justin Tadlock’s Hybrid, It suits my blog very well.
A great deal of good frameworks in there. I’ve used three of theme.
At present time my favorite is Hybrid, but Thematic is also very good.
I am working on a child theme for Hybrid, and once finished hopefully plan on doing the same for Thematic, and possibly WP-Framework.
I use Thesis, but I must say that I also code some WordPress themes from scratch
I have used WPRemix with good success. I know that it is not free, but has many options. Have a look at that. It allowed my easy customization, but with a solid framework to start with. It may not be a good choice for beginners, but saved me a huge amount of time. I don’t have experience with others at this point.
Ptah Dunbar’s WPFramework tho
great functionality and is pretty simple to use
I know it’s almost 3 months since you posted this, but since the poll is still open …
I voted for Justin Tadlock’s Hybrid. It’s clean, coherent and simple. And that’s what counts if you want to get your message across.
We love free themes that have some resemblance of SEO.
I will be trying out Hybrid and Thematic for my next project…Many thanks!
Could someone explain why using a theme framework is a better idea than using the default theme? Just wondering…
To be honest since I’am discovered Drupal, why should I use a _Wordpress_ Framework anymore
. But back2topic, I writed my templates all the time from scratch… didn’t need a Framework anytime. Maybe because I often write templates for smaller websites with only 10-20 pages?
I’d go for the Hybrid theme as well. It’s clean, simple and nice. It’s also pretty cool that the designer posted on this thread
I would go for sandbox….that is if I know what I’m supposed to be doing. But I don’t. LOL
So I voted for Carrington. I like the fact that it’s clean. As far as working on it to make a unique one for me, I’m not sure I can handle it…just yet.
Thematic for me. I feel this design has the best overall potential that the others.
Wow, awesome post. I actually bought Thesis theme and really like it. But I’m going to have to try out some of these free Theme frameworks out and see how they compare.
You can take the content from your existing portfolio page and create a wordpress page with the same content. When you click “Write” inside the wordpress admin dashboard, it defaults to a new post.
Thanks for such a great information.
I voted for carrington of Colbert Report. Aside from it’s free, I like the red and blue combination. And we’re one Stephen with the choice of getting free rather than paying, besides it’s the content that is giving you coolest points and the theme will serve as added machine to make your piece attractive.
Ian Stewart the creator of the Thematic theme framework is currently in the process of putting together a series which explains how to cut theme development time, easier theme modifications, and the power of child themes.
I think carrington is the way to go. Alex king did a great job.
after seeing the survey I would have guessed more people can’t code from scratch
I’m using Thematic for my blog since it’s the only framework used by other bloggers in Italy. So it’s easier to get and to share documentation in my own language. But, as web developer I would like to explore more frameworks when they will get more local diffusion.
Nice WordPress Theme,I Like IT.
Justin Tadlock’s hybrid framework gets the thumbs up.Simple yet effective.
I agree I really like to utilize the hybrid framework. It makes things much simplier.
I’d go with Themeatic because it’s very easy to change fonts of posts and stuff and it has clean code like valid XHTML etc.
I like Thematic, it’s very clean and well coded, which the others are as well, but I like less options on the “Theme Option” , in fact I’d like to see that page go away all together in Thematic and do every thing programmatically. I will also say the only two I have investigated are Hybrid and Thematic.
I have not fully explored the other ones but I really like Thematic… It is just me… Totally sophisticated but at the same time simple and clean looking… Just the way I like it I supposed… Though I have to explore the other ones…
Previously I would write it all from scratch as that way I knew exactly which bits of code were in the theme, however lately I’ve been using the Thesis Framework and am finding it really awesome to work with.
You have to really understand how hooks work, but once you get that straight in your head it’s pretty rock solid….and it’s SEO is golden!
I like Thematic, it’s very clean and well coded, which the others are as well, but I like less options on the “Theme Option” , in fact I’d like to see that page go away all together in Thematic and do every thing programmatically.
I use wordpress themes that are based on Hybrid just because they are search-engine optimized. The results are great in terms of SEO even though the themes don’t look that snazzy. Nevertheless, overall great results.
I personally like the carrington theme. Very clean and easy to work with…
I’ve like Justin’s themes but find them a moving target as they are deprecated with new versions. I’ve currently opted to use Artisteer but that involved a lot of time–still less than to create from scratch–and still requires more editing to get just right.
In big picture, I find the current crop of themes to be incomplete in handling basic page content. When I look at a theme, two initial checks I make are (1) how unordered and ordered lists display (e.g., alignment), also how parent-child lists are handled (e.g., 1, 1.a.), and (2) look at how tables are handled (e.g., borders),
+1 for Justin Tadlock’s hybrid
Emm, I use premium wordpress theme framework, the headway theme and thesis theme, and sutidopress will release a new theme, the free one is hard to use, at least for me .
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Most theme frameworks are good, especially Thesis, but trying to set them up can be a pain. I have a set framework that I created from scratch that works pretty well and thats what I use for personal sites as well as conversions.
This way I know exactly where everything is and editing is easy. Trying to figure out what someone else did or how they did it or where I need to go to edit is a waste of time IMHO.
Come on man, how can you leave out ATAHUALPA. It gives more options than even Thesis and is free. Please get it on the list.
coz Thesis simply rocks and most of all you can code it as well(too much to learn from Chris)
Probably the most ironic thing about your post is that your tag line is “Hire me – I’m expensive, but I’m very good!” And yet you write “but I’m not going to pay for one when there are so many great free options.”
Would love to hear you explain that one.
Hi Dave,
You certainly get bonus points for paying attention to the site!
There is a time lag between the two (this post was written before the tag line), but it probably still holds up.
The people who hire me generally want a custom WordPress plugin and at that point they have usually checked out the free options and there is nothing that does quite what they want, so they are willing to pay. I’ve never reached that point with a theme framework – although most of my work is plugin based rather than site development, so I generally don’t need a theme.
Being a developer, I prefer a theme with standard codes and something which reduces the development time.
I am using rtPanel since 3 months now. Amazing framework I must say. Its just perfect, they have offered couple of useful hooks and filters and moreover they offer FREE technical support.
I would recommend you all to try rtPanel once.
Cheers!!